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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Sept 23, 2011 20:15:03 GMT
I didn't actually have very high hopes for this episode but thankfully I was wrong.
All the stuff with the hybrids-gone-wrong was pretty grim. I am finding it hard to believe that Klaus hasn't worked out the doppelganger isn't dead...or he just doesn't want to voice his opinions until Stefan is completely his "comrade."
I totally saw the Caroline's dad thing coming. I have a feeling we'll be seeing Liz again soon in the shape of saving Caroline. I also really love Tyler for his bravery with Mrs Lockwood, that was a nice touch.
I can't decide how I feel about the Elena/Damon thing. On one hand I think what Damon said needed to be said; that despite all she wants to do for Stefan, she obviously feels something for Damon. I think the main reason that bums me out is that the rift between my favourite brothers will never be resolved. On top of that, it makes me even sadder for the next episode when I think we're set to lose Stefan completely.
Oh and the whole Anna/Vicky thing is very interesting. I'm tempted to go with what Anna's saying but I'm totally biased given how much I didn't like Vicky.
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Post by True Love on Sept 23, 2011 23:12:06 GMT
I know a lot of people were angry at Elena Gilbert. For not freaking out after finding out Stefan killed Andie, for going on a suicidal mission. The thing is, I can’t get mad at Elena.. at least not for this. I can only guess what is she feeling at the moment, but I guess well. I relate too much to her to hate her actions because I know, if I were in her place, I’d probably doing the same thing. I would be panicking, and I wouldn’t be aware of my situation.. probably she isn’t either. She didn’t actually see Stefan killing anyone.. she can’t imagine face of a monster on the body of a man she loves. And that’s the other point, she loves him, and she doesn’t want to believe that he’s gone. But Elena did something very smart in this episode. When it became dangerous, she ran. And I’m proud of her because of that. I know she wants to save Stefan, but I’m glad she can keep her head on the place and think rationally in those situations.
I also loved the dynamic between her and Alaric. She’s right, they have only each other. Elena is maybe legal now, but she’s still a kid. She can’t do everything alone. I’m glad Alaric is back in their house, because both Elena and Jeremy need him.
I love Ripper Stefan. He’s sexy, he’s dangerous, and he developed an attitude. Now he feels powerful enough to stand up against Klaus. Although I’m still not sure what Klaus actually wants, and what his plan is. With Stefan, that is. He didn’t want him as the part of the hybrid army, which means he has greater plans for him. Now I’m waiting for Katherine to come back. I’m sure she’ll push all kinds of buttons that will put things in motion. As Paul’s fan, I’m glad he got a chance to do what he always wanted to do, and in my opinion, he’s doing it really well. He knows how to separate the old Stefan from new Stefan, although the old Stefan is still in there and from time to time, swims on the surface. I knew he’ll hear Elena in the woods. Somehow, I knew, since the promo came out. And when he actually saw her, the look in his eyes was heart breaking. He saved Damon’s life. From a werewolf. Again. Although he tried to keep his cool, like he doesn’t care about Elena, like he doesn’t care about anything anymore, Damon was able to read right trough him. His eyes when he told Damon to take Elena home and keep here there were burning, because he was worried that Klaus might see her or hear her. It felt more like Stefan if begging him, not telling. That probably convinced Damon his brother is still there. So, Klaus’s plan failed because Elena is still alive. And when Stefan realized that, he looked like he’s dying from the inside. He was probably so afraid Klaus doesn’t find out Elena is alive. That really got me. So, my new theory about how Stefan will come home is: Klaus will find out Elena is alive, he’ll want to kill her, and Stefan will want to protect her. Even if that event doesn’t bring Stefan home, I think it’s bound to happen. I don’t think Klaus will give up on his plan just like that.
We got another Stelena moment. Small, but precious one. Like I already said, those small moments can be better and more memorable than big scenes that take our breath away. They’re connected. He had to see her, and she felt his eyes on her. Quite beautiful and poetic. And that makes my hope rise and rise, although I rarely have my doubts about them. Once you have that kind of connection with someone, to sense someones presence, how is it possible to break that connection? Things like that make me believe in them, and because of things like that, I’ll always be Stelena shipper.
Jeremy’s story is getting interesting. I can’t wait to find out more about that, and I can’t wait for Bonnie to return.
Delena scene. I don’t have really anything to say about it, good or bad. As a Stelena supporter, I’d like it wasn’t there, but I can accept the reality.. Damon loves Elena, and Elena cares about Damon. The only thing I know is that Damon had a chance to kiss her, and he didn’t. Which makes me think their relationship might take another path. A path of friendship. Because I think that’s what Damon needs from Elena.. a friend. Because I don’t think she could make him happy. She’ll always love Stefan, and even if she doesn’t belong to Stefan as a whole, one part of her always will. And with that fact, and with Stefan around, she could never make Damon truly happy. And he deserves someone to love him the way he loves Elena.
I kinda had a feeling that’s Caroline’s father. For I while I was asking myself when will he arrive. I hope he doesn’t do anything to hurt her, and I hope Tyler will save her. When Tyler did today, showed his mother that there’s a monster in him, in her own son who she loves.
I just wish people can stop saying this is a Delena season. It’s not. Just like first two season weren’t Stelena seasons. This is a new season of TVD, nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by True Love on Sept 23, 2011 23:16:38 GMT
I actually don't know how to feel either. I know I wasn't moved, I know I didn't thought it's beautiful.. but like you, I thought it needed to be said. And now the question is, what are they both going to do about it? Is Damon going to do that to his brother, and is Elena going to do that to Stefan? Will finding Stefan make them closer in friendship level, but more apart romantically speaking? Paul said that when Stefan comes back, Stelena relationship will be an antithesis to what it was before. I'm still trying to figure out what he really meant by that..
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Post by Marisa on Oct 5, 2011 6:19:56 GMT
lol I think I am more towards Anna as well since I love her but her point of view is making since. Now that Matt is involved Vicky really has some power. Jeremy can't ignore her easily now.
I am torn as well with Damon/Elena. I think the fact that she is just now admitting she has feelings is a little late lol I mean it is obvious she has feelings and there is an attraction there. I just hope this doesn't turn into a triangle forever and they give each ship a proper chance so fans can make decisions but either way Stefan and Damon are going to have problems which like you Peyton I am upset about.
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Post by True Love on Oct 5, 2011 12:16:23 GMT
To be honest, with every new episode I like the idea of Damon and Elena romantically involved even less (if that is even possible)..
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Post by Marisa on Oct 14, 2011 1:10:37 GMT
See I am to the point where I don't even really care about Elena her character is starting to really annoy me. So I don't want her with either them at the moment I think Damon makes her a bit more tolerable and they have good scenes. I just don't get her thinking maybe that is the problem. I think at times she is to easy on Stefan if that makes sense so that makes me dislike that relationship even more. I am kind of hoping we see more of the other ships for now on to get more of their development.
I haven't really been keeping up with this season to much lol like I have been watching K-Drama's I may just wait till the break and catch up not sure yet. The only thing I really look forward to is Klaus, Caroline and Anna.
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Post by True Love on Oct 15, 2011 17:01:53 GMT
Interesting. You think she's too easy on Stefan, and I think she's too easy on Damon. Elena is too forgiving by nature, especially with Damon, who harmed her much more than anyone else. She forgave him killing Jeremy too fast (and that's something I could never ever fully forgive someone), him trying to kill Caroline was never even brought up, and her being mad at him for feeding her his blood was avoided by him dying.
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Post by Marisa on Oct 25, 2011 7:52:28 GMT
Interesting. You think she's too easy on Stefan, and I think she's too easy on Damon. Elena is too forgiving by nature, especially with Damon, who harmed her much more than anyone else. She forgave him killing Jeremy too fast (and that's something I could never ever fully forgive someone), him trying to kill Caroline was never even brought up, and her being mad at him for feeding her his blood was avoided by him dying. Yes she is too easy in general but what I mean is it is kind of like Stefan can do no wrong with her and it gets old with me. I would like to see her treat him as he should be treated for the way his actions are now which is kind of happening slowly. This is the thing about Damon and why I always struggle in the end with staying irritated with him he gets the job done. Now he doesn't always make the right choices and do right but in the end you know if there is going to be dirty work that the other characters feel to above Damon will do it and sometimes that is needed to save their lives. Hope that makes sense.
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