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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Apr 22, 2011 13:49:05 GMT
 That just about sums up my feeling right now lol Such a good episode. I love that Elijah sees himself and Klaus in Stefan and Damon. I think he sees himself in Stefan and Damon more as the Klaus type which I think could bode well for Stefan. I think Elijah respects Stefan's position more at the moment. I think he knows that the path Damon is on will lead to his own destruction if he is not careful. I felt bad for Damon realising that what Stefan said was true. But I like the fact Stefan stood his ground when it all came out. But I do fear that any full reconciliation they could have had is now gone. I hope that what Elijah has said is true and that the sacrifice goes down the way he says but I'm not entirely sure. I still think Elena is more than prepared to sacrifice herself. It's going to be an exciting last 4 episodes, I can tell that much!
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Post by Marisa on Apr 24, 2011 5:25:14 GMT
I am kind of torn because I feel like Stefan is always saying oh you love Elena and so on but then when he finally pushes Damon and he snaps back he gets mad. I mean I kind of feel bad for Damon she is always around they are always together yet they need him all the time so I am torn for that reason. I like what his "girlfriend" said to him. That he needs someone around that cares about him. I see a lot of Elijah in Damon and Stefan except now he has learned his lesson and he said not again. So regarding Elena I am not sure if he will protect her as he says I think he would be willing to sacrifice her which is the difference because he wanted to spare Katherine. Katherine certainly likes to keep it in the family. They are going to be very exciting all I am thinking is Alaric and Caroline better be ok and Jeremy but the rest I am prepared to say goodbye to lol I start getting like this around finales. Did you feel bad for Jenna? She looked so helpless and like she was on the verge of a mental breakdown at that moment she looked younger than Elena it was actually very sad. |
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Apr 24, 2011 12:29:46 GMT
But I've never got the impression that Stefan has ever been like that. I've always found that he has bizarrely encouraged Elena and Damon's friendship knowing that Damon will protect her. They had a bit of a spat over it when they went on that road trip but that's all there has been. This is the first time they've laid it all out and I think its only natural for Stefan to react that way. Stefan is getting so much crap for his below the belt comment but people seem to be ignoring that Damon pretty much said if it wasn't for Andie being around to distract him, he'd have Elena already.
I never have anything against Damon, I love him. But he was being a bit of a douche in this episode. Usually he has another plan because he thinks it will work better. This time, however, he was just being an ass, I thought.
I can't help but jump to Stefan's side, sorry lol. How can you not when you see that scene with him so upset about Jenna? And yeah, I agree. It's really sad. I felt so awful for her when she realised that they had told John over her.
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Post by Marisa on Apr 25, 2011 1:54:55 GMT
Yes I agree with that as well it is just Stefan encouraging him may make Damon hate him even more he is basically saying she will never love your or maybe that is how Damon thinks I don't know he is so complex.
I think Damon was trying to hit below the belt and did I don't think Damon was right for saying it I just think he is losing it. He seems to be going off the deep end very quickly. Have you noticed that? I seriously don't know what he will do next.
He was being a douche he knows he was I just don't understand his ways right now. Like I said I think he is losing it when he told even Elena to "go to hell" that was it I was like wtf Damon what has happened to you? I wasn't angry I am just confused for him yet I feel sorry for him. Maybe he needs to not live in that house for a while.
I wanted to give Jenna a hug so badly I mean props to the actress she did that scene very well. I think Stefan is so much easier to read because he lays his emotion out on the line. Like in that scene I know Stefan will do the right thing and has a heart of gold in my eyes I love him for that. I myself usually side with him because like you said Damon is an ass and we know it. I just for some reason felt bad for Damon in this episode maybe it is Katherine she has screwed up all these mens lives!
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Apr 25, 2011 14:39:15 GMT
I don't think Stefan cares if he encourages him or not. Not anymore. Last time they were arguing Damon was stronger but I don't think this is the case any more so he's not so worried about riling him up. And to be honest, he has every right to be pissed about this brother being in love with his girlfriend lol
Don't get me wrong, I love Damon and most of the time I can see the method behind his ass-ness but not in this episode. I think the lengths he will go to are dangerous, not romantic lol
I hope that Jenna can reconcile how she feels right with how she feels about Alaric. I think he could help her get through it better than most people. I think Elena is actually the last person I'd expect to help. I think Stefan would do a better job!
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Post by Marisa on Apr 26, 2011 7:44:10 GMT
Yes he does have the right. I personally think though that throughout the series Elena tries to encourage Damon and the last thing I want is for them to end up 100 years the same exact place over Elena. I mean come on now not again! I like Elena but yeah i don't know how I feel as of now.
Damon is a loose canon at this moment and I wouldn't want to be around when he aims and fires.
I was thinking the same thing Alaric or Stefan. Stefan has a very healing personality how he was with Caroline showed me that in a major way so if anyone can help Jenna it will be him most likely. I don't think her and Elena are going to be very happy I mean Jenna had her cry but I don't think she is going to forget. I felt bad when she was like does Jeremy know? I was thinking well like Elena he loved a vampire well two to be exact! The vampire diaries isn't quite as messed up as True Blood yet but yeah it definitely has its issues lol.
Do you watch True Blood Peyton? I can't remember if you do.
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Apr 27, 2011 15:24:11 GMT
Yeah I know what you mean. The funny thing is, is that I think Elena encouraged Damon and was happy to develop a friendship with him so that she wouldn't become another Katherine. I think she desperately wanted them to reconcile and thought she could be the one to do it and not be like Katherine. Her intentions might have been good but its actually exactly what she has done lol
Damon is a loose canon, indeed. The thing I find odd with hardcore Delena fans, is that as a fan of Damon, how you possibly think he is in the right place for a relationship with anyone, let alone Elena, is beyond me. He is at odds with himself and until he's not, he needs to be alone. It seems like people think he'll be fine once he's with Elena and she'll make it all go away but she won't because Damon is way more messed up than just not having the girl he wants.
I would love for it to be Alaric who sorts Jenna out but after the knife/Klaus thing, I can see why she wouldn't listen. I know what you mean too, it's not just finding out that vampires and werewolves are real but that the two teenagers your responsible for have been in so much danger, you can't even imagine.
I've seen the first episode of Tru Blood. I thought it was okay but I really didn't get on with the unnecessary sex lol Don't get me wrong I'm not a prude but it was just a bit like wtf? lol
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Post by Marisa on Apr 28, 2011 8:44:22 GMT
Very true I always love hearing your insight Peyton it is dead on! I agree but yes unfortunately it has backfired. I hate to say it but in the end I kind of hope the brothers end up alone. I mean I think either relationship could be epic and I could really hardcore ship Damon/Elena or even Stefan/Elena but I feel Stefan/Damon are more important. I don't want to see them fight all the time my mom was like Marisa I hate when they don't get along and it is sad because they are brothers.
I agree I think he needs to develop WAY more before they put him in a serious relationship. Elena may make it WORSE. It could turn into a Dawson/Pacey thing where Damon is insecure that she really loves him and Stefan the same. So until Damon calms down he needs to be alone.
Lately I have not been to much about shipping on TVD. I don't even know if I am team Stelena or Delena I see good in both but then i don't lol. The only ship I have really stronly supported was Anna/Jeremy I am so involved in the character development since there is always so much going on. I love seeing the relationships and vidding them but then I don't make sense?
Tell me about it poor Jenna. Do you think they will kill her in the finale? I can see it happening and John could stick around. I hope not but I don't know with Kevin.
That is what I thought as well! I was actually uncomfortable and hit that fast forward button. I felt like they relied heavily on sex in the pilot. It gets better though and the sex slims down. I mean it is there some because it is HBO but it is not that much at one time. It does get better I don't know if it is better than TVD but it is good.
I meant to ask you Peyton do you enjoy TVD more than Buffy/Angel?
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Apr 28, 2011 17:35:23 GMT
Aw thanks, M but I'm also with you on so many things.
I know that Paul and Ian have great chemistry when they're arguing but if they fail to reconcile, the show has failed me. It is Stefan that Damon needs to show him who he can really be and Stefan needs Damon to show him that he needs to find a balance between his human and vampire side. They need each other lol
Surprisingly, I also agree very much on the shipping thing. I love Stefan and Elena, I do, and they have so many cute moments but you know why I love them? Because they make Stefan happy. Stefan is my absolute favourite on that show and if he's happy, I'm happy. Does that make sense? lol
I hope they don't kill Jenna. I think that she's one the characters who could be most interesting and I'd be sad to see her go. I think they've kind of neglected which is a shame because she is so genuine, they could so much with her.
Some of the things I have read for tonight's episode are seriously intriguing. I'll watch it ASAP in the morning.
Yeah, I do like it more than Buffy/Angel. Characters are what get me into a show and TVD has so many diverse, interesting and ridiculously complex characters that are so well written that BtVS/Angel just pales in comparison now. I also think that Williamson and Plec and the other writers really care about their mythology and I love it.
I may give True Blood a try again, but I keep saying that about so many shows!
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Post by Marisa on Apr 30, 2011 20:48:50 GMT
Aw thanks.
I agree they need each other so much and they don't even realize it!
That is the thing I totally understand that is why I myself like them because she makes Stefan happy. I even like Bonnie and Jeremy at times and I don't really like Bonnie because she makes Jeremy happy. So yeah it makes sense lol.
They did neglect her she pops in and out so randomly I am like they should focus on her more.
I was wondering because my mom and I were having a discussion I still like Angel but TVD is right there for me it is so interesting never misses a beat. I do think some actors are stronger than others but as a whole the vampire diaries is really good. I think your right about Kevin and Julie. Plus sometimes I feel Joss is a little overconfident and I don't get that vibe from Kevin.
Do you know Julie Plec worked on Kyle XY? I started seeing some episodes on demand and it had Caroline's mom on the show. I found that interesting.
Same here I really need to get the ball moving!
I am going to watch the new episode soon I see you already posted. I went and saw Fast five so I am behind lol.
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Post by Lorelai Gilmore on May 1, 2011 10:09:18 GMT
I prefer TVD to btvs too, I think the characters are stronger I care about them more and I prefer Kevin to Joss. I'm a little behind with this at the moment but should be watching episodes 19 and 20 tonight. Marisa how much of Kyle XY have you seen? I watched all 3 seasons a while ago and really liked it. Not to add to your ever growing list but if you have been thinking of watching it I would recommend it  |
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Post by Marisa on May 1, 2011 17:52:45 GMT
I prefer TVD to btvs too, I think the characters are stronger I care about them more and I prefer Kevin to Joss. I'm a little behind with this at the moment but should be watching episodes 19 and 20 tonight. Marisa how much of Kyle XY have you seen? I watched all 3 seasons a while ago and really liked it. Not to add to your ever growing list but if you have been thinking of watching it I would recommend it I have seen the first four episodes of season one they have all 10 episodes of season one on demand so I may finish that this weekend. lol it is ok to add to my list It really is a nice show I like it so far. |
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