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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Oct 7, 2011 22:07:28 GMT
One of those strange episodes where lots happens but not a lot happens, lol.
Really pleased to see Katherine back especially her interaction with Stefan.
I'm also so glad that Jeremy finally told Bonnie. After his character development in Season 2, I was worried they'd take him right back so pleased he made the right choice.
I really liked all the small reminders of Stefan's feelings for Elena only because it was a reminder of who he really is. If any one think he's genuinely broke up with Elena because of the reasons he said, then they're watching the show wrong and intentionally choosing to not understand his character!
Damon annoyed me...again. I can understand him being annoyed about them trying to change him etc but what did to Alaric is nothing but another massive reminder of why he is not in a place to be with Elena. The dude seriously needs to sort himself out.
Speaking of Alaric - what's up with all the joining the council business? As to his other parts in the episode. I fully support what he said to Damon. His issues with the relationship are similar to mine and I think he has very valid reasons for doing what he did.
I really wanted Bill to say something nice to Caroline. What more does she have to do?!
And the big question...who is Michael and why does he want them dead. On this topic, I just saw a really nice idea about Stefan. He wants to draw attention to Klaus' whereabouts. His Ripper status will do that - its the reason Klaus wouldn't take him along back int he 20s - so he needs to be all crazy to help this Michael (if he still exists) to find Klaus and get rid of him. Not sure I completely agree but I think it's a cool idea.
Enough rambling, will hopefully have some logical thoughts at a later date!
Oh and watch the promo and try to work out what the heck is going on!
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Post by True Love on Oct 9, 2011 19:47:13 GMT
When I told people I do not like Rebekah and that I have a feeling I'll like her even less as the story progresses, they asked me how can I tell that after only one episode. I told them I can, because if someone can come to love her after one episode, I can come to hate her too. And now, when she ruined things, and almost everyone came to dislike her, I have only one thing to say.. NEVER DOUBT MY FEELINGS! Katherine is back. Love it. Love her. I kinda love Steferine in theory, but I never want them to happen. Which kinda makes me sad, since I love Kat and I know she loves Stefan. I'm not conflicted about it, though. Stefan belongs to Elena, and Elena belongs to Stefan. I'm glad she saved Stefan, but I'm also interested in what will she and Damon do with the necklace. What I'm conflicted about is Jeremy and his storyline. I love Anna, I always loved Anna. And I loved the thought of her and Jeremy together. When she was screaming how she's all alone, I almost cried. But she's dead. And I actually like Bonnie and Jeremy, and want to see them happy, but also want to see more of Anna. /FOREVER CONFLICTED Damon got on my nerves in this episode. I don't love Damon, I don't hate Damon.. I kinda don't feel anything special about him. He's probably the only character with who I have this non existing relationship. But he needs to get his act together. I understand that he has a lot of feelings and problems and that he loves Elena and so on.. but to be completely honest, for 2 seasons that is his excuse for everything. Just because you can't have the person you love doesn't give you the right to kill people, even if they will come back. I'm glad Caroline kicked his ass. That was pure gold. And I'm glad Alaric didn't forgave him just like that for killing him. I love their bromance, but seriously, what was up with that? So, Elena kinda confessed she has feelings for Damon. I thought I'll be mad once she does, but I wasn't. I don't know why is that. Maybe because I, and all of us, kinda knew she feels something for him, so her saying it out loud wasn't such a shock, or maybe because they're using Caroline to do so, and I could never blame Caroline for anything, simply because I love her. Or maybe because I'm so into Stefan's storyline that I'm not even noticing what the hell is going on. The thing is.. I wanted her to face her feelings for a long time, simply because I'm tired of feeling like she's being emotionally unfaithful to Stefan. But the thing is, I wanted her to realize she cares about Damon and that in a way she loves him, but that she's in love with Stefan, and that it's always going to be Stefan. Elena gets a lot of hate because of her feelings. From SE fans, because she has feelings for Damon, and for DE fans because she doesn't want to confess her feelings. I don't hate Elena, mostly because I understand her. And I understood her in this episode. When she said she can't confess them, even for a second, because what would that say about her as a person? Some people call her "slut". I don't think that's right. If she acted on her feelings, that would be a different story.. I wouldn't call her a slut, but.. Elena was always this person with high moral standards, and I guess in my eyes, that morality would be taken away from her. When Stefan was tortured, and all Stelena flashbacks came.. I started to tear up. I never doubted his feelings for her, and I never thought Stefan is truly gone. I understand he's doing all of this to protect Elena. That's his main goal. He'll always be protecting Elena. And the thing is.. he'll never stop loving her. Stefan, for so many years, he was just.. wandering the Earth. But when he met Elena, she gave him a reason to live. She's his purpose, she's his everything. And nothing will ever change that. Elena is his true love, his soulmate, best friend, partner. And even in the episode where they didn't interact, they were still present. They were still very much there. Rebekah: Do you think you will love anyone like you loved that girl? Stefan: One day. Maybe. Rebekah: I can always tell when you’re lying Stefan. This is where I rest my case. And I think all SE shippers know what I'm talking about, especially people who understand Stefan's character. And because I understand him, this whole Delena thing scares me. I'm sure of Stefan's feelings. Elena is his true love. That's it. He'll never love anyone the way he loved her, and he probably never did. And the reality is, Stefan will come back home. And if Delena actually (God forbids) happens in a long run, where will be his place? Is he going to sit back and watch the loves of his life and his brother being together, while he's still in love with her? That sad thing is, he probably would. If he would see she's happy, he would leave her like that, even if that means unhappiness for him. But I don't want Stefan to hurt anymore, because he's hurting enough as it is. Not many people can love selflessly like that. I'm never going to be fine with Delena. Never. There are many reasons, but mainly because I think that would change the whole dynamic of the show for worse, Damon and Elena are NOT relationship material (in my opinion, the fact he can't have her is what is so "charming" about them), and Stefan would hurt, and Stefan would be third point of the triangle. And Stefan being my favorite character, I don't want to see him in that position. The only way I would be partly fine with them happening, is if Stelena gets their closure. The thing is.. that will never happen. Stefan will never stop loving her. If he does, that would be very much OOC, and that wouldn't be Stefan we know and love anymore. He's able to love her and protect her in the ripper state.. and if he's able to do that, he'll love her forever. I guess this show, for me, was never about her choosing between two brothers. But about Stefan and Elena, because they're are true love story. And as much as I'm excited for the next episode, I'm scared like a little baby. And P. Sawyer, be sure to check Canadian promo too, it's very different
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Oct 11, 2011 18:25:02 GMT
Can you link me?! I want to seeee it!
Ha, I think I repressed the Elena talking about Damon feelings because I care so very little about it. A huge part of me is over the triangle. The only reason I'm still a bit interested is because it still involves Stefan and like you, TL, he's my guy and I'm completely absorbed by him and his character.
I'm also so glad Alaric didn't forgive him. It's about time someone stepped up and stopped making excuses for Damon. How many more seasons is it going to be okay for Damon to do what he wants with no repercussions!?
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Post by True Love on Oct 11, 2011 21:49:05 GMT
Here's the vid. Unfortunately, it's not with high quality, but you can see everything.
I was never into the triangle. To be honest.. to me.. it was never the triangle. For me, it was always Stefan and Elena.
And I know. Damon is easily forgiven for everything. To be honest, sometimes I think only Caroline remembers everything he did..
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