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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Aug 12, 2011 20:17:41 GMT
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Post by Lorelai Gilmore on Aug 13, 2011 13:01:48 GMT
Thanks for this P, on the one hand I'm really looking forward to this and can't wait, but on the other I'm really not looking forward to all the Damon and Elena stuff I know we're going to get.
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Aug 13, 2011 14:22:51 GMT
I know what you mean. I'm really excited to see Ripper Stefan. Not only does he look totally hot, I think he's going to play it really well. I think people are expecting that he's going to be this absolute monster, and so much worse than Damon, but I think people will be surprised.
I haven't actively shipped Stefan and Elena for a while. I got to a point where I wanted them together because it made Stefan happy but now I feel like both he and Damon deserve more than Elena.
I'm really annoyed by the apparent reasons for Damon's anger. They should not be the reasons he is angry with him. Stefan is doing what he's doing FOR Damon. He should be annoyed that Stefan did something so stupid because Damon didn't know how to get himself out of his own mess, not pissed because Stefan declined Damon's invitation to eat through the female population but went with Klaus. Is it just me or Damon stop wanting Stefan to rampage with him around S2? I thought Damon had moved past that?
Sorry, but its really ruffled my feathers! lol
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Post by True Love on Aug 24, 2011 11:40:23 GMT
I'm really, really not excited about this Damon/Elena stuff. Before I started watching, my friend told me "You're going to love Damon and Elena so much", and I was thinking "WTF? Haven't I read she's with Stefan.." She was very much surprised when I told her I don't feel them. I see why some people love them, but not me. I guess I'm too much into brooding and self sacrificing vampires.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the other side of Stefan, but I know I'm going to miss him and Elena so much. What I hate about this article.. it's all about Damon. Damon is pissed of because Stefan went killing with someone else? Excuse me? He did that for him. He had the courage to leave two most important people in his life, so one can survive. He loves his brother enough that he risked not seeing or being with Elena ever again. And he trusted him enough to leave him with his girl, even when he knew he's in love with her. Excuse me, but this is not about Damon and how he's mad at Stefan. This is about Stefan giving up everything so his brother can live.
What I regret the most about Stefan's absence in the first episode, is that we're not going to see him giving a birthday present to Elena. I wondered for 2 seasons when is her birthday going to be, because I saw a possibility for one of the most touching scenes in the show. However, I've read something about Damon giving a present to Elena, which will remind us of Stefan's absence, but still, the scene is going to be for Delena fans..
I have a problem.. the video won't show up for me. Can anyone post it or knows where else I can find it? :/
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Aug 24, 2011 15:14:12 GMT
Finally! Someone who is as annoyed about that article as I am! And for exactly the same reasons. I just seriously hope that isn't why Damon is mad because if it is, I feel like they really be taking his character backwards and even further away from someone who could potentially be with Elena. At least I can still hope that Stefan will SERIOUSLY kick his ass before he turns back
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Post by True Love on Aug 24, 2011 20:13:57 GMT
I kinda thought Damon will be mad, but not because of the selfish reasons said in the articles.. but because of some stupid alpha vampire reason, like Damon was always the one saving the situation, and now Stefan saved him.. so Damon feels like he owes him something. Plus, he's in love with Elena, and he would be guilty for that because his brother sacrificed everything for him. I really never thought the reason is going to be so stupid.
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Aug 24, 2011 20:58:54 GMT
Damon should be angry for one of two reasons I think:
1) because he got himself into yet another mess that he couldn't sort out
2) because Stefan did something so irrevocably stupid for him...again - I get the impression this isn't the first time Stefan has done something huge.
Damon is so far past wanting Stefan to go out and eat people with him. It really wasn't a big factor in season two. Damon himself had stopped eating people (on the whole).
I was mega annoyed with Damon when he admitted that the reason he hates Stefan isn't for the perfectly justified reason that he pushed him towards turning but because Katherine chose Stefan. You know for a reason COMPLETELY out of Stefan's control. But I thought they'd moved past that.
I think the reason I'm so annoyed is because I LOVE the Stefan/Damon dynamic and I don't want it to be boiled back down to something so stupid.
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Post by True Love on Aug 24, 2011 21:47:23 GMT
I love Stefan/Damon friendship (brotherhood) also. I hate the fact Elena is in the middle of their relationship. But I also love Stelena, so that doesn't make me want her to go away.
I just can't read Katherine. She spent the whole season telling Damon it was always Stefan, but in the end of the season she said to Elena "It's ok to love both of them. I did".. so now I'm confused. Did she really love Stefan, or is she playing some game? She probably still wants Stefan back, so is she trying to push Elena to Damon? Or did she really loved both of them, but was in love with Stefan. Because I truly believe she loves him. The moment when they were both shot in the woods, she leaned her head over to Stefan and whispered "I love you".. and the way she touched her lips after kissing her and telling her he loves her. I love Katherine, but I can't read her.
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