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Post by True Love on Jun 21, 2010 22:16:22 GMT
I'm really interested in what will happen to Clay and Quinn. I hope they both will be just fine.
It would be nice to see Brooke's wedding, and it would be nice if she, by some miracle, could get pregnant. And if not, maybe adoption.
I would like to the Lucas, Peyton and baby as guest stars. And maybe they could bring back Deb for few episodes, or Karen with Lily.
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Jul 14, 2010 14:13:19 GMT
From the twitter updates that have come out today the chances of a Luke/Peyton return are slim which makes me very, very sad. But Sophia did say 'LOOKS like no Luke/Peyton' (her emphasis) so we can hold out hope until the finale airs lol
She also said there's Brooke/Victoria and great Nate/Haley, thinks there will be a wedding and not sure about the baby.
It's exciting to know filming has started and I didn't know that SoGoPro was a big presence in the production side.
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Post by Pacey Witter on Jul 14, 2010 15:31:27 GMT
Maybe LOOKS could mean we hear from them? Like they call? Whatever, I would lose respect for Peyton if she didn't attend Brooke's wedding, lol.
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Post by True Love on Jul 14, 2010 23:12:36 GMT
Yes, it would be really uncool coming from one BFF.
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Jul 15, 2010 8:24:33 GMT
Well you can't really lose respect for her. Pacey you're someone who frequently refers to 'writers' and their decisions, particularly with BL/LP so how can you not here?
I don't often refer to writers at all but here I will because it isn't Peyton's fault she's not there so how can you blame her? It would be stupid to from how I see it.
Also, LOOKS to me could be anything. Could be what you suggested or it could be that they're still in talks or something? Who knows.
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Post by Pacey Witter on Jul 15, 2010 15:16:55 GMT
Well you can't really lose respect for her. Pacey you're someone who frequently refers to 'writers' and their decisions, particularly with BL/LP so how can you not here? I don't often refer to writers at all but here I will because it isn't Peyton's fault she's not there so how can you blame her? It would be stupid to from how I see it. Also, LOOKS to me could be anything. Could be what you suggested or it could be that they're still in talks or something? Who knows. Because Peyton and Lucas weren't supposed to leave... I'm sure the writers are doing everything they can to get them back. Hilarie has said many times she's not returning, and Chad just refuses to even talk about OTH anymore. |
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Jul 15, 2010 17:13:11 GMT
Dude you can't pick and choose when you want to use writer's as an argument and when you don't. It doesn't matter that they weren't supposed to leave. To me, to lose respect for Peyton or Lucas, or criticise 'them' for not being there is beyond ridiculous. And you know how little I care about what writer's say etc so it takes a lot for me to think otherwise.
Also, again you're casting judgements on the actors themselves. We really actually know nothing about how they feel no matter what any newspaper, magazine or website prints. To be perfectly honest, given the way that they have both been treated since leaving I'm not surprised they both rarely talk about it.
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Post by Pacey Witter on Jul 15, 2010 20:51:51 GMT
Dude you can't pick and choose when you want to use writer's as an argument and when you don't. It doesn't matter that they weren't supposed to leave. To me, to lose respect for Peyton or Lucas, or criticise 'them' for not being there is beyond ridiculous. And you know how little I care about what writer's say etc so it takes a lot for me to think otherwise. Also, again you're casting judgements on the actors themselves. We really actually know nothing about how they feel no matter what any newspaper, magazine or website prints. To be perfectly honest, given the way that they have both been treated since leaving I'm not surprised they both rarely talk about it. But it's factual. Hilarie has said in interviews that she doesn't see herself returning. And in a magazine article, CMM was quoted as "No Comment" when a OTH question came up. Also, I'm not using the writer's as my basis for the argument. TBH, Chad is the main reason they're not in Seasons 7 and 8. He wanted to leave, and they couldn't break up Lucas and Peyton. How is that not his fault? |
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Jul 15, 2010 21:06:22 GMT
Ah yes of course, cos magazines NEVER twist anything to suit themselves do they?!
It depends on how you define the term 'fault' here. You seem to want to blame somebody and I don't. There are far too many fans of these TV shows who seem to think the actors owe them something when in reality they owe us shit. If Hilarie and Chad wanted to leave then it's up to them and good luck to them, I can understand their reasons.
Does it completely blow that L/P won't be in the finale? Yes it does. Does that mean that Chad, or Hilarie, deserve to be blamed for moving on with their lives? No. And it also means that the characters of Lucas and Peyton cannot go down in people's estimations when it is beyond anyone's control. You know how much I hate the cast being slagged off and attacked especially for things like this. We could read every single magazine article and internet story and never know exactly what happened, no matter what anyone wants to believe.
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Post by melbell on Jul 15, 2010 22:51:55 GMT
You guys are getting heated over this and I LOVE it!
It's a tough situation because had this been real life we don't really know what would have happened...maybe Petyon and Lucas would have decided to move away anyways eventually...maybe they would have stayed in Tree Hill forever we don't really know.
I have to agree with P. Sawyer on this one...obviously in a real life situation Peyton would never miss Brooke's wedding. Since it is a tv show though, if nothing can be worked out between the show and the actors (CMM and HB) then they won't be written into the finale, which isn't Lucas or Petyton's fault by any means and the characters shoudn't be punished for the situation.
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Post by Pacey Witter on Jul 16, 2010 0:32:30 GMT
You guys are getting heated over this and I LOVE it! It's a tough situation because had this been real life we don't really know what would have happened...maybe Petyon and Lucas would have decided to move away anyways eventually...maybe they would have stayed in Tree Hill forever we don't really know. I have to agree with P. Sawyer on this one...obviously in a real life situation Peyton would never miss Brooke's wedding. Since it is a tv show though, if nothing can be worked out between the show and the actors (CMM and HB) then they won't be written into the finale, which isn't Lucas or Petyton's fault by any means and the characters shoudn't be punished for the situation. I'm not blaming the characters... I never was. I'm not bashing CMM, I really don't know where anyone got that from. I'm simply saying that if he stayed on the show, Peyton would be at Brooke's wedding. And Lou (as not to confuse you and the real Peyton lol), perhaps the magazine article is false, but it could also easily be true. Hilarie herself said she doesn't see a return for Lucas and Peyton, and I don't understand why you don't believe that, lol. I could try and find you the interview! |
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Post by Lorelai Gilmore on Jul 16, 2010 8:06:10 GMT
Dude you can't pick and choose when you want to use writer's as an argument and when you don't. It doesn't matter that they weren't supposed to leave. To me, to lose respect for Peyton or Lucas, or criticise 'them' for not being there is beyond ridiculous. And you know how little I care about what writer's say etc so it takes a lot for me to think otherwise. Also, again you're casting judgements on the actors themselves. We really actually know nothing about how they feel no matter what any newspaper, magazine or website prints. To be perfectly honest, given the way that they have both been treated since leaving I'm not surprised they both rarely talk about it. But it's factual. Hilarie has said in interviews that she doesn't see herself returning. And in a magazine article, CMM was quoted as "No Comment" when a OTH question came up. Also, I'm not using the writer's as my basis for the argument. TBH, Chad is the main reason they're not in Seasons 7 and 8. He wanted to leave, and they couldn't break up Lucas and Peyton. How is that not his fault? How do we actually know that Chad wanted to leave, and wasn't pushed? I think a lot happend that we don't know about. |
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Post by Pacey Witter on Jul 16, 2010 14:32:57 GMT
But it's factual. Hilarie has said in interviews that she doesn't see herself returning. And in a magazine article, CMM was quoted as "No Comment" when a OTH question came up. Also, I'm not using the writer's as my basis for the argument. TBH, Chad is the main reason they're not in Seasons 7 and 8. He wanted to leave, and they couldn't break up Lucas and Peyton. How is that not his fault? How do we actually know that Chad wanted to leave, and wasn't pushed? I think a lot happend that we don't know about. lol right when Season Six ended, Hilarie made a video for her SoGoPro website and it explained that Chad wanted to pursue other options in acting besides television, and Mark didn't want to split up Peyton and Lucas. |
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Post by Lorelai Gilmore on Jul 16, 2010 15:48:40 GMT
Theres also video footage with Chad saying 'They don't want me back' or something similar, thats why I was suggesting that we don't know everything. I just thought it was a weird thing for an actor to say who's supposed to be happy to be moving on.
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Post by Peyton Sawyer on Jul 16, 2010 16:30:43 GMT
It's not about me not believing that the actors didn't want to come back, even though I think it's naive to think that's the story when really we don't know the actors and we don't know what went on, as Lorelai has said. I think the fact we don't know exactly what happened proves this. And I know what footage you're speaking of, Lorelia, I've seen it too. Is it the one from outside the set? I get so fired up about things like this because I swear Chad gets blamed for everything lol and you weren't bashing him per say but you did say it was his fault lol
I've also seen Hilarie's and from my recollection she said we all signed on for six years and we've done our six years. She mainly wanted to clarify that it wasn't about money which is what a lot of the speculation indicated.
And I know you weren't blaming characters, but you said you'd lose respect for Peyton, which as has been pointed out, it's not 'her' fault.
P.S I also love the fact we're getting so heated about this melbell lol it's what places like this are for! ;D
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